[Avodah] Stopping Saying Mashiv Haruach

[Liron Kopinsky]

In Israel, we start saying Mashiv Haruach 2 weeks after Shmini Atzeret to
give the people who made Aliya laRegel an opportunity to return to their
homes.

Why don't we stop saying Mashiv Haruach 2 weeks before Pesach for the same
reason?

My presumption is that it has something to do with the need for a public
hachraza on both Shmini Atzeret and Pesach to notify people that the change
is happening (either now or in 2 weeks) and that can't work retroactively
from Pesach to Rosh Chodesh Nissan.

Kol Tuv,

[kennethgmiller]

Post by Liron Kopinsky
In Israel, we start saying Mashiv Haruach 2 weeks after Shmini
Atzeret to give the people who made Aliya laRegel an opportunity
to return to their homes.
Why don't we stop saying Mashiv Haruach 2 weeks before Pesach
for the same reason?

You are confusing Mashiv Haruach with Tal Umatar. Everyone begins Mashiv Haruach on Shmini Atzeres, but in E"Y and in Chu"l. Tal Umatar is where the differences are, beginning on 7 Cheshvan in E"Y, and 4-5 Dec in Chu"l.

But if the question would be rephrased for Tal Umatar, it would stump me.

Post by Liron Kopinsky
My presumption is that it has something to do with the need for
a public hachraza on both Shmini Atzeret and Pesach to notify
people that the change is happening (either now or in 2 weeks)
and that can't work retroactively from Pesach to Rosh Chodesh
Nissan.

I see two problems with that: (1) How effective is an announcement that we're going to make a change 2 weeks from now? Heck, the gabbai announces "Yaaleh V'Yavo!" on Rosh Chodesh, and far too often I forget about it in less than three minutes. (2) Even if you'll insist that the 2 week delay is not a problem in Eretz Yisrael, surely you'll agree that the time from Shmini Ateres until December does constitute a problem for those in Chu"l.

I'm sorry that I have no answers to offer. But I hope you get some answers from someone else, because just a few months ago (http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/vol28/v28n242.shtml#06) I posted some very similar questions here, and got no responses. :-(

Akiva Miller

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