[Avodah] Why an apple?

[Michael Poppers via Avodah]

When did we start defining "apple" as apple? <

Which "apple" is being referenced within the sources mentioned in this
article?

http://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/380551/jewish/The-Apple-Revealed.htm

Thanks in advance.
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[Zev Sero via Avodah]

When did we start defining "apple" as apple?

Which "apple" is being referenced within the sources mentioned in this article?
http://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/380551/jewish/The-Apple-Revealed.htm

Thanks in advance.

Whichever one the Gemara and Zohar meant by "tapuach". (Which may or may not
be the same as the one Shir Hashirim meant, but it probably is the same.)

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Zev Sero
zev at sero.name

[Micha Berger via Avodah]

On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 07:58:40AM -0400, Zev Sero via Avodah wrote:
: Whichever one the Gemara and Zohar meant by "tapuach". (Which may or may not
: be the same as the one Shir Hashirim meant, but it probably is the same.)

Assuming the Zohar and Gemara meant the same thing. Rashbi was 400
years or so before R' Ashi, and there is evidence that the language
evolved (at the very least) until its publication in the 13th cent
Spain. (It constains Spanish words and sentence structures, and has
geographic references that couldn't have been in the Israeli-written
original.)

I would suggest that the minhag need only rely on associations with
the concept of tapuach, and not actually match the botanical species
the word referred to at any point in the past.

And therefore, unless you are REALLY sure that Tosafos are DEFINITELY
right, apple is the better choice -- for you.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha